This site attempts to showcase the Indian musical genius - Ilayaraja and his work with both Western and Indian Classical music over the last 5 decades.
Raja had the opportunity to set to music several songs that had a dance background. Jathis are part of the dance tradition and Raja has considered it as another musical instrument, in my view. He has used them as part of his interludes, charanams and sometimes as part of his pallavis too. Let’s explore Raja using jathi in C&R mode in this post. The segments are from the song Ther Kondu from Ennakkul Oruvan (Tamil 1984).
In the first 5 seconds, the call is by the jathi voice and the response is by the mirudhangam. Very routine in the dance circuit
Between 15 and 20 seconds, the call is by the flute and the response is by the jathi voice. Now, Raja takes standard practice from the dance circuit and replaces it with his own creativity
In the third segment after 27 seconds, Raja further embellishes this with the call from the violin and the response is by the jathi voice.
Let’s hear the sample of Raja’s unusual jathi based conversations ...
Raja uses chorus extensively in his interludes and we have analyzed it in a series of posts on how he has exploited voices in his compositions. We will see how he has exploited chorus and instruments such as flutes, guitars or violins in a C&R mode. First, let’s take a look at a sample of Raja’s unusual conversations between chorus and flutes.
There are two segments in this illustration. The first segment is from the song Madurai Marikozhundhu Vasam from Enga Ooru Paatukkaran (Tamil 1987). In this segment, you will hear rapid C&R interaction between the chorus and the flute – both the call and the response is short and is repeated three times
The second segment is from the song Malligaiye Malligaiye from Periya Veetu Panakkaran ( Tamil 1990). Here the chorus’s call is quite lengthy and the response from the flute is equally lengthy
Let’s hear the sample of Raja’s unusual Chorus-flute conversations...
Let’s next move on to chorus conversations with guitar.
The first segment is from the song Marakudaiyal from Manasinakkare (Malayalam 2003). The call is from the chorus played with the distortion guitar in the background. The response is a short one from an electric guitar (could be a synthesizer) and the C&R is repeated 4 times
The second segment is from the song Puzhaiorathil from the film Adharvam (Malayalam 1989). There is a reversal of role here. The call is by the electric guitar and the response is a lengthy one from the chorus.
Let’s hear the sample of Raja’s unusual chorus-guitar conversations...
Let’s next move on to chorus conversations with violins.
The first segment is from the song Ponmane Kovan Eno from Oru Kaidhiyin Diary (Tamil 1983). The call is from the chorus set in scat mode and the response is from the violins
The second segment is from the song Poonkatre Theendhathe from the film Kunkuma Chimizh (Tamil 1985). The call again is from the chorus and the response is from the violins. The chorus is set to Indian melody this time.
Let’s hear the sample of Raja’s unusual chorus-violin conversations...
These are top of mind examples. If one does deeper research, a number of other examples will surface.
Raja’s use of bass guitar is famous and we did cover this briefly in some of the earlier posts – ‘Basically Raja’. While there are so many examples on how Raja has used the bass guitar as part of his C&R arrangements in his interludes, I will call out two top of mind examples. The clip below has two segments separated by a few seconds of silence.
The first segment is from the song Thogai Ilamayil from Payanangal Mudivathillai (Tamil 1982). The first 5 seconds is a fantastic conversation between a bass guitar and a flute
The second segment is from the song Laali Laali from Swathi Mudhyam (Telugu 1985). Between 10 and 15 seconds you can hear a beautiful conversation between a bass guitar and a veena. Beyond that, the conversation gets into a counter melody which is outside the rules of this section. You may notice that between 15 and 25 seconds, a flute joins the melody and plays a different melody; between 25 and 30 seconds, the flute is replaced with violins
These are very unusual arrangements that only a gifted composer can think of. I am sure there are other such clips I may have overlooked. Readers may throw in their comments.
Let’s hear the sample of Raja’s bass guitar unusual conversations…
Raja uses bells extensively in his interludes and he has used bells with other instruments in a very melodious way that has been an identity for his music throughout the first three decades. Synthesizers started appearing in the 80s and he exploited them very intelligently in his compositions.
We will first take a look at his Bells-Flute unusual C&R’s:
The first segment is from the song Sindhiya Venmani from Poonthota Kavalkaran (Tamil 1988) and is a short 5 seconds of conversation between the bells and flute. The call from the flute is long and the response from the bells is short
The second segment is from the song Un Paarvaiyil from Amman Kovil Kizhakaala (Tamil 1986) – again a short 3 second conversation between the bells and flute
The third segment is also from the song Un Paarvaiyil from Amman Kovil Kizhakaala (Tamil 1986) – again a 7 second conversation between the bells and flute and is from the second interlude of the song
The fourth segment is from the song Raasave Unnai Naan from Thani Kaatu Raja (Tamil 1982) – this is from the prelude of this song and runs for about 13 seconds and the conversation is long for the bells that meet with a short flute response
The fifth segment is from the song Shenbagame Shenbagame – Sunanda version from Enga Ooru Paatukaran ( Tamil 1987) where the flute response is very short to the long call by the bells
Let’s hear the sample of Raja’s Bells-flute conversations…
Let’s look at some of Raja’s Bells-guitar conversations next.
The first segment is from the song Roja Ondru Mutham Ketkum Neram from Komberi Mookan (Tamil 1984) – the call is from the bells and the guitar responds to the call
The second segment is from the song Shenbagame Shenbagame from Enga Ooru Paatukaran ( Tamil 1987) – the call is from the guitar and the bells respond to the call
Let’s hear the sample of Raja’s bells- guitar conversations…
Let’s next analyze some of Raja’s Bells-violins conversations.
The first segment is from the song Ennullil Engo Engum from Rosapoo Ravikaikaari (Tamil 1979) The call is by the violins and the bells respond to the call
The second segment is from the song Oh Vasantha Raja from Neengal Kettavai (Tamil 1984). The call is a very short one by the bells and response is relatively a long one by the violins. In this segment, you can hear the C&R arranged 8 times over with minor variations to keep the interest of the listener
The third segment is fromt h song Thaalaatum Poongatru from the film Gopura Vasalile (Tamil 1990) where the call is a very lengthy call from the violins for which the bells respond very briefly. It is almost the opposite of segment 2, but the melodic arrangement makes this whole orchestration interesting
The fourth segment is from the song Unnaithaane from the film Nallavanukku Nallavan (Tamil 1984). The call is a lengthy one by the violins and the response is almost of equal length by the bells.
Let’s hear the sample of Raja’s bells- violins conversations…
Let’s next hear some of Raja’s conversations with Bells and other instruments. This will be a medley of instruments working with bells.
The first segment is from the song Punchai Undu Nanjai Undu (Unnal Mudiyum Thambi Tamil 1989 or Rudraveena Telugu 1989). The call is by percussion and the response is by bells. In this particular arrangement, both the call and the response are very short
The second segment is from the song Shenbagame Shenbagame – Sunanda version, from Enga Ooru Paatukaran ( Tamil 1987). The call is a lengthy one by the shehnai and the response by the bells is short
The third segment is from the song Sindhiya Venmani from Poonthota Kaavalkaran (Tamil 1988). The call is by the synthesizer for which the response is from bells (this is technically also from the synthesizer)
The fourth segment is from the song Oru Thanga Rathathil from Dharma Yudham (Tamil 1979). The call is a lengthy one by the bells and the response is a short one from the veena
Let’s hear the sample of Raja’s bells- and other instrument conversations…
These are top of mind examples of the C&R arrangement that Raja has done with Bells. With these segments on bells, it must be obvious that the innovation Raja did with the limited power of the 70s/80s synthesizers is remarkable.
At times, we enjoy conversations and at others, we do not.
Some conversations become quotations that we tend to enjoy repeating. In the
world of music, conversations happen between human voices and at other times
between musical instruments. Sometimes, it can be between human voices and
musical instruments too. In the Indian film music tradition, there are rarely
films, that do not have duets, sang typically by a male and a female singer.
There are duets featuring same gender voices too. Almost all duets are dialogs
or conversations between two participating voices.
In this analysis, we will focus more on conversations
between musical instruments. This is universal and has no language barriers
such as a human duet song. In the Indian music tradition, jugalbandhis are
musical instrument conversations. One instrument makes a call and the other
responds.
Here is an example of a fantastic conversation between Zakir
Hussain (tabla) and Hari Prasad Chaurasia (flute) in a Jugalbandhi:
Several Carnatic kutcheris have instrument ensembles which
tend to have conversations between a mirudhangam and a violin or a kanjira ,
a violin etc. Such musical conversations have inadvertently seeped into Indian
musical sensibilities that it has become part of our musical taste regardless
of classical or popular film music.
Here is an example of a Kutcheri by Embar Kannan (he plays
violin for Raja) and between 12:06 and 14:25 in this you tube video, you can
see several rounds of conversations between mirudhangam, kanjira and ghatam.
Even with Electronic Music Technology (EMT) and new software
tools, producers have been fast to adopt this to the new world of computer
software and tools.
Conversations in general are exchange of ideas between two
persons.In the world of music, it is
exchange of notes between two instruments that we will focus on. These
conversations tend to be in a call and response (C&R) format. When the first
instrument makes a call, the second one, responds back. It is like the way
birds make sounds.
When arranged and written properly, C&R can be very
seductive and pleasant to the ears. Almost every film music composer in India uses
the C&R as one of their staple technique. Raja is no exception. In fact,
some accuse him of overuse of this technique. As with several other myths, this
is also untrue. His C&R is so exhaustive and he chooses to use them very
seductively in his interludes, it has almost become a sub-conscious aspect to most of
his listeners to expect this technique, even if most of themcannot identify it.
Raja has the unique ability to bring in any mood with any
instrument. We saw that in our detailed discussions on ‘Moods of Raja’.
Similarly, what sets him apart from other composers is the fact that he has
used several instruments in the C&R mode. These C&R arrangements are unthinkable for
most composers as Raja’s unique choice of instruments stands out with every
form of arrangement he does.
So, how do we go about doing this analysis? Firstly, we need
to define what usual conversations are. Only when we understand the usual ones,
we can go after the unusual conversations.
We need to have some general rules on what is not considered a conversation within our analysis:
Musical phrases that alternate between two voices, which is part of the main song. As an example Poomalaiye Thol Seravaa from Pagal Nilavu (Tamil 1985) uses the male and female voices in C&R mode throughout the pallavi of the song
Musical phrases, where the instrument responds to the phrases in the pallavi or charanam. In other words, as part of this analysis, you will not hear such wonderful arrangements such as ‘Sorgathin Vasarpadi’ from Unnai Solli Kutramillai (Tamil 1990) where the instrumental music responds 16 times to the musical phrases in the pallavi
A chorus responding to the main singer’s pallavi or charanam phrases. Example, Etho Mogam (Kozhi Koovudhu Tamil 1979)
One chorus making a call and another responding to the call (this has been already covered under the choir analysis)
One can technically argue that the above phenomenon is also ‘Call & Response’. However, keeping these items out will shift the focus to unusual conversations that Raja has done. The phenomenon #4 will be avoided to ensure that there is no repletion between the analysis on choir and this analysis.
In other words, we will only consider instrument conversations or conversations that involve one musical instrument at the minimum. For example, we can consider a voice making a call and an instrument responding to it is fine.
Technically, we need to define the methodology of identifying a musical conversation or C&R. Here is the method that we will use, though there is no theoretical or technical compulsion to do so:
The call must be made by a single instrument with a small melody
The response must be made by a single instrument with a small melody
The call must be repeated at least twice
The response must be repeated at least twice
Neither the call nor the response should be part of any harmony arrangement (multiple voices)
Point 3 or point 4 must be valid. Sometimes, the response for the second time may be with a slightly modified melody compared to the first response
The above methodology has been chosen to avoid any ambiguity in identifying C&R segments within instrument music.
Even with all the above rules, one is likely to end up several hundred conversations and this blog has to be converted into an hourly blog which is never the intent. More importantly, with several repetitive segments, it can get boring quickly and it defeats the purpose of this blog - showcasing the genius of Raja. How do we get to show something unique about Raja’s work in this area?
By filtering out usual instrument conversations.
Most Raja detractors have claimed that he uses a lot of these three instruments in his interludes:
Violins
Guitar
Flute
So, conversations involving these three instruments can be treated as ‘usual conversations’, even if they satisfy all the rules of C&R arrangement. Conversations such as these (you will hear this for the last time in this section of analysis):
Flute - Flute conversation. Example - Vana Kuyilae - Priyanka (Tamil 1994)
If we take out these six type of major conversations, we can uncover the ‘unusualconversations’ that Raja has arranged. The analysis also gets to a manageable size and it showcases the composer’s ability to handle ‘unusual instrument conversations’. We will still have a deluge to deal with, but quite manageable. The ground rules of C&R will fully apply.
How do we approach the analysis of unusual conversations? We will base it on a lead instrument that is neither Violin, or guitar or flute and cover conversations of this instrument with all other instruments. Here are the categories:
Bass Guitar unusual conversations. We will cover some of the unusual conversations that Raja has arranged with Veena or Flute and the bass guitar
Bells unusual conversations. Bells are a special use of a synthesizer (in bell mode) and Raja has used bells extensively in his compositions. We will cover the unusual conversations with Flute, guitar, percussion, Shehnai, Synthesizer, Violins
Chorus unusual conversations. We will cover some of the unusual conversations that Raja has arranged with Flute, Guitar, violins and chorus
Jathi unusual conversations. This is drawn from the traditional bharathanatyam tradition and we will cover some of the unusual conversations that Raja has arranged with flute, violins, mirudhangam and jathi
Mirudhangam unusual conversations. We will cover some of the unusual conversations that Raja has arranged with flute, table, veena and the mirudhangam
Percussion unusual conversations. We will cover some of the unusual conversations that Raja has arranged with flute, percussion, violins, synthesizers, violins and percussion (you read it right, both sides can be percussion)
Sax/Trumpet unusual conversations. We will cover some of the unusual conversations that Raja has arranged with flute, guitar, violins, chorus and the Sax/Trumpet
Shehnai unusual conversations. We will cover some of the unusual conversations that Raja has arranged with Bells, Flute, Guitar, Violins, Synthesizer and the Shehnai
Sitar unusual conversations. We will cover some of the unusual conversations that Raja has arranged with flute, guitar, synthesizer, violins and the sitar
Synthesizer unusual conversations. We will cover some of the unusual conversations that Raja has arranged with chorus, drums, flute, guitar, mirudhangam, Other percussion, Sax, Solo Violin, Synth, Veena, Violins, Voice and the Synthesizer (you read it right again, synth to synth conversations are very common in Raja’s music). There is no composer who has used the synthesizer in conversation with so many other instruments as Raja
Tabla unusual conversations. We will cover some of the unusual conversations that Raja has arranged with flute, mirudhangam, synthesizer and the tabla
Veena unusual conversations. We will cover some of the unusual conversations that Raja has arranged with flute, guitar, percussion, synthesizer, trumpets, violins, voice and the veena. No other composer has created so many veena conversation pieces as Raja.
Voice unusual conversations. We will cover some of the unusual conversations that Raja has arranged with flute, guitar, percussion, synth, trumpet, voice, viiolins and voice. ‘Voice’ here does not mean chorus or choir, typically humming in interludes. No other composer has created such unusual conversations with instruments and voice.
Other unusual conversations. As usual, this is a catch all bucket. We will cover unusual conversations such as percussion and water sounds, bird chirps that are part of interludes arranged as conversations, harmonium and guitar etc.
Even taking out the categories that have been alleged as overuse instruments, we can see that there are 14 categories of unusual conversations that have been part of Raja’s long 4 decade career. No other Indian film music composer has such breadth and depth in orchestration. We are just talking about one technique…
While presenting each category, we will try and combine all conversations between two named instruments into a single clip to avoid too many clips being presented.
As with all analysis, there may be oversight in not including a few clips that belong to the category being discussed. Readers are encouraged to comment on tracks I may have missed.
I have presented the results of various analysis throughout this blog without going into any details about the analysis methodology. However, this time, (with no intentions of bragging) I will elaborate the analysis method as we will try to drive some analysis conclusions at the end of this section. Knowing how the analysis was performed will be a useful context to relate to the results presented at the end.
Though Raja’s compositions run to over 4,500, a database of 1.600 songs were considered for this analysis (a 35% sample of the population). The sample set has all the languages set to music by Raja other than Marathi
The 1,600 songs covered in this analysis span all the 5 decades – 1970s, 1980s, 1990s, 2000s, 2010s.
A scan of the 1,600 interludes is done to isolate ‘usual’ and ‘unusual’ conversations
The focus is more on the ‘unusual’ conversations. Every ‘unusual conversation’ is checked for the rules of C&R, and a segment is isolated and recorded in a spreadsheet. A single interlude can have more than one C&R segment
For every identified segment, the two instruments involved in the conversation is recorded in the spreadsheet, along with the name of the film and the release year
The lead column in the spreadsheet is ensured not to be violin, guitar or flute
A pivot analysis is done on the lead instrument to get a list of unique combinations and those become the 14 categories I plan to present. A sorted list based on the lead instrument is kept for reference in creating the clips
The collection of data was done over 6 months and the assumption is that the sample database is a close representation of Raja’s output and is good enough for predicting/analyzing trends related to this technique
Based on the result set, clips are isolated from the songs and assembled for presentation with the appropriate naming convention for easy cataloging
Analysis conclusions are derived from the analysis spreadsheet to have data support to the conclusions
I hope the analysis helps reset some perspectives about Raja and his use of C&R technique in his music, such as:
Not everything he has done with this technique revolves around the violin, guitar or flute
The breadth and depth of use of this technique can be matched by no other composer, even if we consider his ‘unusual’ conversations
Some of the instrument combinations are ‘unthinkable’ before his time, and few composers have tried these even after he has demonstrated them in his interludes